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White Pony
4:28 Wed Feb 25
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It's shit.
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Swans Of Never
4:26 Wed Feb 25
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And privily he grabbed her by the quient...
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Gruesome Dump
2:31 Wed Feb 25
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I shall tie my my arse to a plank and dive into this tonight.
Woe betide you if it's deplorable nonsense.
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stomper
3:02 Tue Feb 24
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Chaucer give us 12 different spellings for cunt.
Didn't Gropecuntlane in London survive until Hitler dropped a ton of explosives on it?
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stomper
2:59 Tue Feb 24
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There is still a mounting Lane near St Pauls
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DukeofDevo
2:41 Tue Feb 24
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Now a regular term of endearment on WHO regardless of age or station!
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Toe Rag
10:38 Mon Feb 23
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Medieval London had a Gropecunt lane. Running parallel with it was Bawdhawelane, pretty self explanatory and Puppekirtylane. Rendered into modern English that roughly translates as poke kirtle lane. A Kirtle being a type of dress worn by women in the middle ages.
No prizes for guessing what used to go on down those three lanes. They were roughly just west of where No1 poultry now stands. So yes, they certainly would have used the word CUNT in Tudor times.
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ironsofcanada
10:25 Mon Feb 23
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WHOicidal Maniac 9:14 Mon Feb 23
The first (surviving at least) written usage is a place name, which I have been to quite recently:
Around 1250 is recorded Gropecuntelane Lane (now called Grove Walk and Magpie Lane) - which lies in between Christchurch, Merton and Oriel Colleges in Oxford.
It was not taboo in the Middle ages, from the wealth of evidence of place and even surnames, but it seems to be getting there by the time English is being written down with regularly
A concious variant - quainte - is used a lot in The Canterbury Tales.
In some papers from around 1425 called the Medulla Grammatice - or Marrow (or Core) of Grammar - is the clear definition : "Vulua, a count or a wombe."
I did find a few in the Early Modern period that are interesting:
From Paroimiographia Proverbs, or, Old sayed (said) savves (saves) & adages in English (or the Saxon toung), Italian, French, and Spanish printed in 1659. (I included a few sayings around one in question to give some context.)
"He that hath the daughters cunt, will have the mothers heart.
Long aiming, long shiting.
A womans hand is the pricks whe[...]stone."
From Colloquia maritima, or, Sea-dialogues from 1688:
"..the round Splice, that is (as aforesaid) the intervening of the ends of two Ropes one into the other; and that which is (barbarously) nicknamed the Cunt-splice, which is when the Strands of either Rope are put one into another, a good distance off from the very ends, and the very ends left out unspliced; by which means is made a long Slit; the which, with the rude Name-givers, begat the Name."
It is used a number of times in a interesting passage in:
The disputation concerning the controuersit headdis of religion haldin in the realme of Scotland
from 1581.
It is under the heading and (I have modernised some of this one a bit.)
"THE TESTIMONIE OF THEOdore Beze the new Pseudoprophet and pretended reformator of the world concerning his Sodomitical Bougerie with the young man Audebertus, And adulterie with Candida, ane vthir manis vyf, (another man's wife) which is his harlet yet for the present, composed by him self in Latin."
I will let you work the actually usage:
"So couetous is he for to pre-uail.
Bot I vald so thame baith imbrace
To be al hail vith baith in a place
Hir vith hir cunt, him vith his erss, "
Despite the author's claim, Theodore Beze, an early translator of the Bible in English did not write it.
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WHOicidal Maniac
9:14 Mon Feb 23
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DukeofDevo 9:06 Mon Feb 23
Cunt has been used for nearly a thousand years...probably longer.
Proto Germanic language has Kunto and old Norse has Kunta
Frisian and saxon has Kunte
Middle German had Kotze as a prostitute.
Wiki is wondrful. :)
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Gruesome Dump
9:11 Mon Feb 23
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I think I must've had a drink.
THE DRINK.
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bell
9:06 Mon Feb 23
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I remember Dump telling me he looked like Emmanuel Petit.
Blonde pony tail and all sorts.
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DukeofDevo
9:06 Mon Feb 23
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Getting in trouble for use of the C word
Did they use the C word during Tudor times? And was its use in the book
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Nurse Ratched
9:04 Mon Feb 23
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*shrugs*
I preferred you with my old glasses.
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Gruesome Dump
9:01 Mon Feb 23
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If you've seen me, yes. I'm exquisite.
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Gruesome Dump
8:30 Mon Feb 23
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Are you flirting with me?
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Nurse Ratched
6:29 Mon Feb 23
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Dump 3:30.
Sure, help yourself to jam, too. If you can find any. J was round yesterday and did his locust impersonation...
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Billy Blagg
5:46 Mon Feb 23
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I prefer the TV series to the book which I did find a bit turgid to be honest.
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WHU(Exeter)
5:30 Mon Feb 23
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Think it's been a really good adaptation, could have gone to more episodes, unlike a lot of stuff, that stretches on whole series more than need be.
I don't understand why there were a couple of people in the papers, going on about how unfairly Thomas More was portrayed in the series - overall he's shown (mostly), as somebody standing up for their principles, even if that means death.
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Dom
4:34 Mon Feb 23
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saw the first episode, forgot about it and by the time i went back to it on catvh up only episode 4 onwards was there, which is a shame
i thought the guy who plays cromwell was very very good in the once episode i saw
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